AMPORT PARISH COUNCIL
Minutes of the Ordinary Meeting held on Monday 19th
October 2009 at 7.45 pm at Amport School
Mr Ian Morrison (Chairman), Lt Col Charles Stephens
(Vice Chairman), Mrs Tanya Garman, Mr Bill Gore, Mrs Sarah Hammer, Mrs Diana
Preston, Mr Ashley Smith and Mrs Suzanne Hoare (Clerk)
Apologies Mrs Jean Arnell, Mr Nicholas Hoare, Mr Ian Long and Mr Tim Southern
Pat West HCC Councillor plus 2 members of the public were present.
2. Minutes of the Previous Meetings.
The minutes from the September meeting were approved
and signed having been proposed by Sarah Hammer and seconded by Diana Preston.
3. Matters Arising from the last meeting and Declarations of
No declarations of interest were declared and there
were no matters arising from the last meeting which will not be discussed
4. Presentation by Mr Graham Smith - Planning at TVCB on the
proposed changes to the Core Strategy
Ian Morrison introduced Graham Smith and thanked him for
attending tonight’s meeting.
The need for a change was explained: the Planning Inspectorate have the power to
make TVBC change their policy for development within villages. The aim is to
allow more houses within the existing boundaries of the village to add vigour to
This would be a Test Valley Borough wide policy but at present there is no
intention to seek any more houses within rural villages.
Graham Smith outlined the options open to the Parish Council -
- Leave unchanged the existing 2002 local plan ( adopted
after review in 2006)
- Produce ‘village envelopes’
- A loose envelope around the settlements within the
village which would reply on written policies to determine the housing
allowed within. i.e. is it within the conservation area, is it a
specific open space within the village, does it fall within the
parameters set out in the village statement?
- Tightly drawn village envelopes with less areas
considered for extra housing but still governed by the planning rules as
listed in above.
It was stated as important that the policy must be consistent;
if gardens are included they must be included in all parts of the village.
Paddock areas and open plots only indicated in some parts of the village would
not be seen as suitable policy as this could favour some land owners. This would
lead to appeals.
It was recognised that ‘a one size fits all’ policy would be difficult to
achieve and that views of individual Parishes would not be upheld, the final
policy being decided by Borough Councillors.
Questions were then taken by Graham Smith -
Charles Stephens- Is this policy change designed to invigorate villages?
Yes – doing nothing is not an option open to TVBC.
TVBC would welcome comments from the Parish Councils by the end of 2009.
Bill Gore – The brown line would seem a very similar policy to the tight
Graham Smith agreed that a tight envelope in Amport
would not produce much additional housing. Areas such as the Green and opposite
the Amport Inn would not be deemed suitable for development.
Sarah Hammer – what would happen to the individual comments from Parish
Test Valley would publish all the comments from the
chosen villages and this would lead to 2 sets of consultations culminating in
the policy being considered by the Secretary of State to determine if it was fit
for purpose. Developers in certain areas would be able to appeal if they felt
the policy was divisive and against their interests.
Ashley Smith –What percentage of Parish Councils have opted for ‘do nothing’?
Graham Smith stated that no data was currently
available as few councils had yet responded. The final policy will be determined
by TVBC, it may be the choice of your Parish Council or totally the opposite.
TVBC will not notify individuals within the villages of change, this will only
be done though local media.
Ian Morrison sought to clarify if Parish Councils need to seek the opinions of
Graham Smith stated that there was no mandate to do
this, some villages had but others had not.
Diana Preston - No questions
Tanya Garman – Would the policy change attract small industries to the
Graham Smith felt that only existing redundant
building would be considered and reminded councillors that Affordable Housing
was a separate issue, where once a need for houses was established land outside
the village boundary could be used for development.
This concluded the discussion on the Core Strategy and Graham Smith was thanked
once again by Ian Morrison for attending tonight’s meeting.
Pat West the HCC Councillor present asked Graham Smith if he
could give the meeting the benefit of his experience on 106 agreements before he
Graham Smith outlined the history and intentions of 106 agreements and when
asked for specific comment on whether money would be available to enhance the
Fen, reminded councillors that such money was not designed for maintenance. He
felt money should be available if designated by TVBC for ‘Parkland’ and the
proposal was designed for capital improvement, enhancement and for the provision
He commented that he would speak to Mark Goodman at TVBC and help further if
The Green and Amport Fen
It was decided to again contact the pest control man
to eradicate the moles on the Green, this is necessary for the grass cutting. Clerk
Footpaths and Highways
The only footpath requiring additional cutting is the
Green end of the watercress beds path, Bill Gore will cut this himself as it is
only a short section. BG
HCC have included the proposed footway along the Monxton Rd from Sarson
Lane to Wiremead lane in their forthcoming budget. It is hoped that this footway
will be constructed as it would be used by parents walking their children to and
A letter will be written to Dr Hole asking him to cut back his hedge along the
Monxton rd as the 30mph sign has been obscured by foliage. IM
Jean Arnell via e-mail asked if there was any progress on the use of SID
signs to control speeding in east Cholderton IM
to follow up with Ray Alborough at TVBC
The 25year PFI legal agreement was put forward for
signature at the meeting. A vote was taken and approval to sign the document was
unanimous. The costs are likely to increase slightly, however the alternative,
the Parish maintaining and replacing the 3 lights ourselves was not considered
6. Planning Applications
|09/01853/TREEN Fell 2 sycamores Brook Cottage The Green No
Objection subject to the aboriculturist PSC|
|09/01871/TREEN Crown reduce two Silver Birch and one Copper
Beech by 30%, Red Gables Monxton Rd No Objection subject to the
|09/01925/FULLN Provision of replacement bay window at front
Canberra Sarson lane No Objection planning sub committee|
|09/02024/TPON Remove overhanging branches at Victoria
Cottage The Green Amport No Objection subject to the aboriculturist|
|09/02081/FULLN Retrospective application for front access
gates and pillars, The Firs, Sarson Lane, Weyhill No
7. Planning results
|09/01748/TREEN Fell Beech, Sycamore, Maple, Leylandi,
Rambler Cottage Sarson Lane PERMISSION|
|09/01532/FULLN Change of use of agricultural land and
installation of 4 underground bulk storage gas tanks and associated
enclosure Project Workshops Lains Farm PERMISSION|
Mr Garman had attended the meeting held at the Guildhall on
the 13October, this was designed to update Parish Councils and concerned parties
on the future of the warehousing at Andover Airfield. Parish Councillors will
have seen Mr Garman`s full report on this meeting.
The Co-op have signed a 20year lease for the site with Goodman and are expected
to create 960 new jobs at the site. The warehouse will now contain a
refrigerated unit but will only be 60% of the size of the previous proposal.
Overall this was considered a much better prospect for the site which will now
include more smaller units and office space.
Ian Morrison thanked Mr Garman for reporting on the meeting.
The following cheques were presented at tonight’s meeting
||cuts in Sept
|S A Hoare
|S A Hoare
||4 months expenses for the PC
||School Book Prize
The cheques were signed by Ian Morrison and Charles Stephens.
These were approved by those councillors present.
Councillors were reminded that at the November meeting projects/ items to be
included in the financial year 2010/11 need to be submitted to allow approval of
the budget at the December Meeting.
9. AOB and Correspondence
Sarah Hammer asked if any information was available on the
completion of road repairs at the end of Fyfield Rd IM/Clerk
Diana Preston stated that the drainage problem under the A303 at Quarley
had been dealt with and it was a great improvement.
Mr Patrick Langdown has written to the Chairman asking for a meeting to discuss
development on land be owns. The Council decided that he should be invited to
attend a future Parish Council Meeting to discuss his proposals.
IM to reply as such
The Meeting closed at 9.35 pm.
The date of the next meeting is Wednesday
11th November – 7.45pm at Amport School.